This episode, Ben chats to Pinar Guvenc about co-design, whether AI ready for society and society is ready for AI, what design is, co-creation with AI as a stakeholder, bias in design, small language models, and more.

Hosted by Ben Byford, The Machine Ethics Podcast brings together interviews with academics, authors, business leaders, designers and engineers on the subject of autonomous algorithms, artificial intelligence, machine learning, and technology's impact on society. This episode we're chatting with Pinar Guvenc about her "What's Wrong With" podcast, co-design, whether AI is ready for society and society is ready for AI, what design is, co-creation with AI as a stakeholder, bias in design, small language models, whether AI is making us lazy, human experience, digital life and our attention, and talking to diverse people… Pinar Guvenc is Partner at SOUR – an award-winning global design studio with the mission to address social and urban problems – where she leads business and design strategy. She is an educator teaching ethical leadership and co-design at Parsons School of Design, MS Strategic Design and Management and School of Visual Arts MFA Interaction Design. Pinar serves on the Board of Directors of Open Style Lab and advises local businesses in NYC through Pratt Center for Community Development. She is a frequent public speaker and lecturer, and is the host of SOUR's "What's Wrong With: The Podcast", a discussion series with progress makers in diverse fields across the world.